Why The Courts Need To Stop Siding With The NFL Regarding Sports Betting (2015 Thread)

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#1 The misconception about sports betting & any type of gambling is that most playing develop a habit.

That is 100% false.

Just like in any other hobby, people do it for enjoyment.

In ANYTHING you will have people lack willpower that will lead to a problem.

Smoking
Alcohol
Eating
Video Games
Computer (Facebook specifically)
Porn
Sunbathing
Shopping
etc...etc...etc.... EVERYTHING in life can possibly turn into a habit for someone.

But it's not the hobby that causes the habit in the person.

It's the nature of the person that develops the habit & until they figure out how to alter someone's DNA, then everyone will always have faults & be different.




#2 "This whole idea gambling on NFL games is not going on every Sunday everywhere is foolish. It's foolish. It's going on everywhere except now it's being handled by criminals who are benefitting from it. If it's going happen, let's make the conduct legal and let's make the people who participate in it comply with certain laws."

"And, here's a thought to ponder: Let's imagine that we could really stop all forms of sports betting in the United States, by arresting all the bookies and shutting every offshore Web site. It would be a disaster for the NFL. Television ratings would plummet and interest would wane. Who would watch the Browns and Chiefs battle it out on Monday night when one team is up 14 points with two minutes to go, other than to see if they'll cover the spread or to see whether the game goes over 48 points? Would advertisers buy that end-of-game spot for anything close to what they charge for it? So, let's get real about this. It's time to legalize sports betting in the United States."


The comments above were made by Chris Christie & they could not be more precise.

Here is the complete article...




The NFL ignores that Americans already bet on sports, legal or not.


Americans love to watch sports and Americans love to bet on sports.
Whether it's the office March Madness pool or the friendly Super Bowl bet between New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Boston Mayor Thomas Menino, sports and betting are part of American culture. Americans place bets to enjoy the game more, and they do it every day and everywhere, and anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding himself. And, it will never stop.
[Read the U.S. News debate: Should Sports Betting Be Legal?]

The problem is that over 99 percent of U.S. sports betting is illegal, because sports betting is illegal under federal law in the United States, except in Nevada, and to a limited extent in Delaware, Montana, and Oregon. And, in Oregon, it's illegal under state law. So, a massive illegal sports betting market, run by criminals rather than legitimate businesses, thrives in our country. The National Gambling Impact Study Commission estimates that $380 billion worth of sports wagers are placed in the United States annually; Nevada's $2.8 billion market represents less than 1 percent of that.
These illegal wagers—placed through "street bookies" and offshore web sites—are unregulated, untaxed, and leave bettors—who simply want a little action on the game—totally unprotected. Legalizing and taxing sports betting is an easy way for cash-strapped states to raise money and protect citizens from shady operators.
[See a collection of political cartoons on the economy.]
So, why is sports betting illegal? The National Football League is the biggest reason. The NFL led the charge to outlaw sports betting and fights any efforts to legalize what everyone knows is going on. Their professed reason is that wagering affects the integrity of the game. But, that ignores that it is going on anyway, and legal sports books would be the first to report anything shady.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is spot on when he talks about sports betting. Last year, speaking at the University of Delaware, he said, "This whole idea gambling on NFL games is not going on every Sunday everywhere is foolish. It's foolish. It's going on everywhere except now it's being handled by criminals who are benefitting from it. If it's going happen, let's make the conduct legal and let's make the people who participate in it comply with certain laws."
How can anyone seriously argue with him? Why do we let criminals profit and keep legitimate businesses out of the market? Sports betting is legal, regulated, and taxed throughout Europe, and it's a big business. The bookmakers even sponsor teams and take bets from the soccer stadium!
And, here's a thought to ponder: Let's imagine that we could really stop all forms of sports betting in the United States, by arresting all the bookies and shutting every offshore Web site. It would be a disaster for the NFL. Television ratings would plummet and interest would wane. Who would watch the Browns and Chiefs battle it out on Monday night when one team is up 14 points with two minutes to go, other than to see if they'll cover the spread or to see whether the game goes over 48 points? Would advertisers buy that end-of-game spot for anything close to what they charge for it? So, let's get real about this. It's time to legalize sports betting in the United States.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2012/06/26/why-chris-christie-is-right-about-sports-betting
 

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in a way i think the nfl is correct, just look at the people each day that play the lotto in a given state, they get hook fast.local bookies love to start people out playing the small parlay sheets in the college and nfl to get them hook ect.........
 

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Sports betting is the big elephant in the room where the NFL & others don't like talking about it......

Ratings would plummet in the NFL if it wasn't for sports betting & fantasy sports betting......

I wish for 2 weeks, every fan would stop going to NFL games & stopped watching them for just 2 weeks......then they wouldnt ask why, they would know why.....

Legalize sports betting.......I actually hope Pa gets it before NJ......its gotta start somewhere, & it seems the judges don't want NJ to get it for some reason.
 

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in a way i think the nfl is correct, just look at the people each day that play the lotto in a given state, they get hook fast.local bookies love to start people out playing the small parlay sheets in the college and nfl to get them hook ect.........



The NFL's argument is that sports betting would ruin the integrity of the league for other reasons.

That's the point of Christie's argument & everyone else who has a clue that the sports betting has been, is, and will always be going on with NFL Games & that legalization & regulation is the better route to go for everyone involved instead of it being done illegally...
 

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#1 The misconception about sports betting & any type of gambling is that most playing develop a habit.

But it's not the hobby that causes the habit in the person.

It's the nature of the person that develops the habit & until they figure out how to alter someone's DNA, then everyone will always have faults & be different.

Exactly --- even if you eliminate the hobby/vice, you don't necessarily eliminate the risky & reckless behaviors. Many people will simply find another outlet for their anxiety, depression, boredom, wanderlust, whatever --- drugs, alcohol, sex, food, stock market, shopping, fast cars (and fast women).

You can close every casino in America, but that doesn't mean all those people will suddenly become old-fashioned Puritans. That doesn't mean they'll suddenly go to church every Sunday.
 

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